I don’t think the black church should have gotten involved in this Chick-Fil-A Fiasco.
But it does look like a few churches really lined up to buy chicken to support the movement against gay marriage.
The CEO of Chick fil a started a firestorm of controversy by coming out and saying that he believes that marriage is a union that should involve only one man and one woman.
That led to a big turnout for Chick fil a appreciation day, with millions of people showing up to support the business.
But the move has also gotten some unwanted support from Neo Nazis and top black conservatives, which serves to taint the conversation a bit.
The affiliations with Neo Nazis have been used to bolster the case in support of those who disagree with what Chick fil a has been doing. Chick fil a argues that their disagreement with gay marriage is not a form of discrimination. Instead they argue that the bible tells them that homosexuality is an abomination and that they are simply speaking to their beliefs. Gay rights groups, on the other hand, believe that the disagreement with gay marriage is consistent with a strong bias against the gay community.
“Being against gay marriage is not being anti-gay,” said Project 21 member Demetrius Minor. “The last time I checked, Chick-fil-A wasn’t expressing a desire for gays not to eat at their restaurants or seek employment with them.”
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I wonder if these Black churches rally when the KKK killed those four little girls in Alabama many years ago…
I wonder if Chick-Fil-A has any Blacks in high management position????? Some of us Blacks are lamebrain morons also……..Back in the days they wouldn’t even serve a Black….Had to go around in the back to pick up your order…..And you know it would still be like that today if wasn’t for the Civil Right Era……
I seriously doubt you are black because no sane black person would have even made the comparison to the tragedy of the 1963 Birimingham church bombing to this Chick Fil A nonsense. What black church would have supported the KKK in 1963 when it was well known what the KKK did and stood for? Where is your fucking brain?! A classic case of a white person or seriously uneducated and ignorant black person trying to make a point at the expense of black history in America. And boy you people fail each and every time because in the sad ass attempt of you trying to display the hypocrisy or nonexistent double standard in discrimination between gays and blacks, you come across like a jackass. The owner of Chick Fil A simply expressed an opinion on the issue of gay marriage and support some organizations who support the traditional view of marriage. They have been doing this for YEARS and suddenly now it is a big fucking issue because GLAAD and other middle class whiny ass whites told you so? The difference between Chick Fil A and the Civil Rights Movement you dumb fuck is the fact that the owners of Chick Fil A are not BLATANTLY discriminating against gays and telling them they are not allow to eat in their restaurants. They are BLATANTLY hanging derogatory signs in their restaurants in reference to gays to violently attacking gay individuals like savages on the fucking street. Do you bother to remain white women who are in support of Chick Fil A of the history of discrimination against women in this country? Do you bother to bring up the history of other races who oppose gay marriage or do the sensors only go off if a black person DAAAAAARE to say they are against gay marriage? These black people in the churches have just as much right to support this organization as the white churches and any other race. The only lame brain moron is yourself.
If you are a ***nigger*** then you are a brainwashed house boy of the 21st century…………If you are a red neck then you are prejudice…….Either way you look at it you are a lamebrain imbecile…..Why would a black person support this red neck racist ass hole white boy ……..
Rarely do i ever debate with a lamebrain imbecile……
Honey you can’t debate with me. You’re outta your league and you know it. Otherwise your response wouldn’t display such stupidity. Oh yeah and call me a nigger because I forgot my place in good ole America. “Yes Massa! If you say I must suppoooort all the stuff the white folks say, I will do it Maaaassa!” And if I don’t, I’m a nigger and blah, blah, YAWN. So, if I disagree with the gays, may the racial slurs fly ever so freely from your low class mouth. Hmm. Your logic is to respond with racism and anger because you clearly can’t decipher the difference between the heinous violence of the Civil Rights Era and this Chick Fil A debacle? Gotcha! God forbid if I have my opinion and not following the leader. Just so you know, these people you are fighting the good fight for can’t stand your ass either if you are black. Sighs, Lord I am done. In other words, you can’t be talking to me boo.
You are the dumb one here, Renee. Look up all the racist organizations that Chick-Fil-a supports and donates money to. Usually, a bigot is a bigot. They hate anyone who is not just like them. They feel the same way about you that they feel about gays. Wake up and smell the coffee.
Sorry darling, but you are well off drinking your own coffee. And while you are at it brush up on your reading comprehension too. As I clearly stated in my post, Chick Fil A has been donating to these organizations for years on end. No one, including yourself, gave a damn about who they gave their money to until some quasi white liberals told you what to think. I don’t need someone to remind me of racism and bigotry in this country. But if you want to fight the good fight, remain consistent and inform and not go off on some shit a group tells you. You think Chick Fil A is the only damn company in American supporting so-called hate groups? Or are you waiting to see how the mainstream media and other predominately white gay organizations drum up the next controversy for their mafia to attack? And while you are at it, perhaps you too can educate yourself on the racism within these gay right organizations. Go on. Go to their message boards to read the seething hate towards black people and look up the history and complaints gay black Americans have against these groups and even gay bars who treat African Americans as if they are less than human. In other others dumb ass, racism and bigotry is ALL around us. Do you see black churches protesting at dead soldiers’ funeral about the sin of homosexuality? Do you see black churches or black groups getting together to protest some gay talk show host (Ellen) in a JC Penney advertisement? Was it black churches who raised $55 million dollars to put an anti-gay marriage initiative on the 2008 ballot? Are black people the dominant ones within these organizations supporting hateful actions towards gays? Are black politicans out in the forefront constantly making insensitive remarks in reference to gays? The resounding answer is NO and yet you people want to attack blacks if we happen to forget our position in America. That position being a nigger right? Only when blacks don’t wholeheartedly agree with a popular white liberal position do people feel the need to bring up racism towards our race and are eerily silent when blacks protest and speak out against racism we endure to this very day. Sighs. I don’t care about someone’s sexual preference and I support gay marriage. But what I can’t tolerate is blatant ignorance at my people’s expense. You can make all the excuses you want in an attempt to dismiss the silliness of this controversy, but it won’t work with me. The more these people continue to fuck with Chick Fil A, the more you bring out these crazy ass ultra right wing racists.
Amen, ashe & right on Renee, teach AND preach! Oh yeah and the more they raise the $$$$$$$ in their cash registers! I get it, I really do, it’s just that a house divided against itself CAN’T stand!
As someone who’s a little bit older and who was at the beginning of the civil rights movement but not at the beginning segregation and discrimination. I’ve seen my people treated so horrible that I cannot get the images out of my head to this day. It is only by Gods grace that I did not take a gun and killed every white person that I saw. I said that in order that I could say this. We, as black folks have come a long way in America. We, now have a black man as President of this country. Who would have believed that twenty years ago? We have a long way to go and we don’t need to fight and argue over a piece of chicken and/or the position the owner takes in respect to the so-called gay rights issue. So folks if one likes Chick-Fil-A then go there if not Kentucky fried Chicken tease mighty fine to me. As someone once said “can we get alone…can we all get along?”
Renee, honey, go on with your bad self!!! Girl, I’ve read your comments to a room full of people and EVERYONE was shouting their amens all over the place!! You are speaking the truth! This Chick-Fil-A is getting on my NERVES! Our people are being shot at, beaten (including teenagers – remember the honor student that was in the hospital for weeks after being attacked by 3 undercover piece of shit cops?) close to death and all the rest of the crap, yet this tiresome Chick-Fil-A story continues to be first page news!! Like you, I support gay rights and gay marriage, but gays have not gone thru a TENTH of what we have had to endure.
To compare the civil rights movement to this sick homo movement is ignorant & disrespectful to the blacks who made & paid the ultimate sacrafice with they freedom or life….where the fuck is there straights water fountains nice & clean & gay fountains that is dirty, what gay folks had to sit on the back of the bus,get served food out back the gay agenda is irrelavant!!!!
q-bourough, everything you said is wrong. You are ignorant about civil rights.
Explain how he’s wrong. Everytime white folks have a social issue they want to bring to the spotlight, they always bring up the civil rights movement. The same people who violate or support the violation of African Americans’ rights suddenly develop a new consciousness about fair and just treatment. Don’t use our movement to strengthen your cause! This is unfair.
No, q-bourogh is completely correct and it is so insulting to African-American to compare the two. Any person of color who does not understand this has a “mental” problem.
Well said Renee and q-borough. Supporters of Chick-fil-A are dealing with one issue. I can’t stand when folks try to change the focus and add in baggage to distract people from the eal issue which is we have a right to be against gay marriage. Noone is attacking gays, taking away their rights, burning stakes in their neighborhood. We are saying that we are following our holy book be it The Torah, The Bible or The Koran.
Thank you Soul Sista and very well said. I respect your opinion just like you respect mine. We may differ on the issue of gay marriage, but I am not going to outright attack you for it. I hope more people read your response and understand this is simply a matter of personal beliefs and not hate.
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as a person of whose mother is a native american, and whose father is black., let me say by all means those house niggaz in that picture are sickening… talk about your amos and andy, stepinfetchit, modern day coonery… those people are there because they have been conned into loving a non existent skygod… man made religion poisons the spirit beyond belief… those same people would be up in arms if the ceo of chick fil a was spending 7 million dollars on an anti-black hate campaign… but no he is hating against gays, something their moronic pastor told them was okay to do… it isnt enough for black people to no longer have the chains of slavery, now they have enslaved themselves with christianity… i mean its hilarious…
if you asked most of them what was in the bible they couldnt tell you… man made religion is a lottery for your spirit… people use man made religion because their souls are empty and they need to be lead by some shyster who needs you to pay his house and car note… if people knew what was in the bible they wouldnt play a part in these massive roles of illiteracy… think about it, their god is so stupid that it doesnt even know the earth it created is round… if you dont believe me feel free to read revelations 7.1 where it says it saw angels standing at the four corners of the earth… really, how does a round earth have four corners??? well lets see, it doesnt… so conger up as much religionista mumbo jumbo as you like and the earth still wont be square… now lets think about why in the bible in its most important part it says the earth is square… gee, that would be because in the year 200 everybody thought the earth was flat… make sense??? am i making since to you bible toters yet???
if that isnt good enough lets look at a god who is so childish it kills everyone on the earth except for noah and his family… i wont even get into the ridiculous nature of we are all descendants of noah, lets talk about having his family build a boat a hundred times the size of the titanic to put every animal of the earth on there… hey, what about the dinosaurs… oh wait we cant have dinosaurs because the triassic and jurrasic era was over a 150 million years ago… the bible at max determines the earth to be no older than 7 thousand years old… wow, that doesnt make any sense right… of course it doesnt… carbon dating > bible… now lets get back to your gods hissy fit where he killed everyone on the planet… understand this analogy PLEASE!!! loving a god who KILLED everyone on the planet is like loving a mass murderer who killed everyone in your family except for one cousin, and because the mass murderer allowed your cousin to live it is a gracious, loving, and caring person…
black people, do you understand that jews, whites, and gays were in the struggle with us helping us gain our freedom??? to turn your back on the gay community for an invisble sky god that exists only to allow some man to pay his house and car note off of you is ridiculous… and black community, stop hating gays period… stop making it hard for people to live their lives… who a person chooses to love is none of your damn business… if your jesus ever existed (and he didnt) from what it says in the bible love is preached… you morons who hate gay people are sick… you dont even see the madness you are perpetrating??? i get it though, you wanna be up in the big house with massa, you want to forget that massa had labeled you as 3/5 of a human being… its all good now right, hate on gays if you want… its fucking idiotic…
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RENEE,
Thanks for your great post! It is appreciated!
Maybe Chic fil will line up against them one day, if they already haven’t.
Hey pickled boo, please don’t use my name. I didn’t write this comment. Thank you.
The signs of mass human insanity show all around us every day. African Americans are among the worst off on many fronts, and many issues. So it would be very safe to say that we have a very high rate of lunacy in our community! Many who think they are perfectly sane should do a very realistic assessment of their lives and everything they think, say, and do, which is not as sane as they might believe! It should be noted that “white” republican and democrat businessmen have many prejudices and hates, and those who hate one segment of our society will generally hate another. Those who hate certain things that can be disputed in their “bible” will usually hate and disrespect other things that have nothing to do with their religion, but are connected to their antiquated ideas and beliefs about certain people.
African Americans should be very cautious of the people they ignorantly support and we “blacks” should be careful of what we eat and who we buy ready-made food from. The owner of chick fil-a is more than likely a long standing member of the Klan or whatever, but many of our totally whacked-out community have so many twisted issues and ideas, that they cannot see that they are helping to ‘enrich’ the very people who would scheme and plot and give speeches filled with racist expletives, and just as well see us dead! Keep asking ‘why’ while studying the actual reasons why we as a community, suffer so badly in this country (without blaming your own color), and study exactly who murders our leaders and plots to keep us divided and down as a people! Supporting a bigoted chicken-store owner is ludicrous! A lot of the things many of us think and do points to the vast mental problems we are saddled with, but what you don’t seem to understand is where the actual blame is supposed to be directed! You must all drop out of your Christianity/religious/God worshiping fantasy world and get a clearer, realistic picture of what our problems entail.
WizardG,
I think what has happened is Christians are tired of having people step on our beliefs. We are tired of the hate directed towards us just because we don’t line up (your words) behind the gays. We live in America, we have freedoms just as they do and we are tired. If you don’t believe in God so be it, WE DO and it is our choice.
No, many African-Americans don’t even eat Chick-Fil-A, this was a statement about our freedoms. gays have spewed so much hatred against us, we are against the wall and we are pushing back and standing up even if you don’t.
What are you tired of? How do gays affect you daily? There are real issues in the black community that affect many blacks in significant ways. Yet, we remain fairly quiet and will not show up to vote on issues that impact our economics, education and safety. We will show up en masse to protest gay equal rights. Think about the idiocy of being tired of something that does not affect you in any significant way, whatsoever, but ignoring those issues that make your life difficult.
Very good post WizardG!
I agree wholeheartedly. According to the quoted reason gays should not consider Chick-Fil-A’s position on gay marriage discriminatory is because they can still eat there or maybe even work for the company. That notion is as ridiculous as the black woman knowingly eating at a racist owned restaurant because the sauce too good to pass up. We have to be smarter than this. Anytime Neo Nazis and black conservatives who agree with Rush Limbaugh are siding with you, you are on the wrong side of the argument–think about. We use to Bible to justify anything: The way southern whites used it to justify Slavery. I choose to abide by the Golden Rule–Treat people the way you want to be treated. It is not complicated. Right is right and wrong is wrong, no scripture can change that.
Lee, you have some very good points in your post. With that said, you stated how people use the Bible to fulfill their own agenda, and they do. You stated you choose to abide by the Golden Rule, and that is good, however, you must know that the Golden Rule is from the Bible!
That is my point, Kim. The Golden Rule should over rule hate and bigotry. I do not care where the rule comes from.
You know it’s tragic how black church’s can support participation of some one else’s wealth. All those Brothers and Sisters supporting this company. It looks like this church should open up there own bus.
This is mental bondage and passive thinking in it’s purist form. Wake up black church’s, build, and support your own. I wonder how many franchises are own by people who look like you?
I agree it is tragic. But remember this is just a picture of a group of black people holding up Chick Fil A bags. Journalism is so damn lazy nowadays and this article is trying to give the impression that ALL black churches are doing this particular action. It’s really the media playing with people’s minds and respectable journalism has all but gone out the window. It will take a miracle for many black people to wake up and support our own companies and so forth on a grand scale.
No, black churches should not have gotten involved, bc if they only knew what the CEO did what the money they spend in the stores.
None of those people or the Black Churches volunteer to help the homeless, or go work at Food Banks. But here they are acting like Coons, supporting a man who is obviously a bigot and not inclusive of all people. And I bet half of the Black idiots in those churches have NEVER read the bible in it’s entirety.
@ Jeff: You call ‘black” people coons? You mention reading the bible too? You are showing signs of ignorance and lunacy at once! Please don’t call us coons! Even when you say acting like coons the very mention of the word connotes that you think of many of us as such! It doesn’t matter, the context it is not a nice ‘sane’ word to use when you know that racist insane “whites” love to use that term when they spew their hatred about us! You may not realize how vile and mentally distorted you show yourself to be when you rant and rave such negativity at people who (basically), have the same psychosocial symptoms as you do!
The signs of mass human insanity show all around us every day. You have just shown a bit of yours. Most of us live in denial of our many problems and many try to shift the blame to ourselves. That concept is wrong and it points to serious negative social issues no matter who we are or how educated, or Jesus-like we are!
Jeff said that they “were cooning, not that they “are”. And I have to agree with Jeff, these Republicans don’t too much care for or about anyone, who does not fit neatly into the White Republican mold! They use the name of jesus, in order get people to let their guard down and then go about the business of lying to and cheating them! Why don’t the people of God, see the devil when he is right in front of them!
Jeff has a “VALID” point….but could have been better presented….
@Olin are you serious? NO Church should support gay marriage!! Simple n plain. its not about blacks racism or any of that…and if i’m correct chick fil a wasnt even around during those white only days. This is about a city (alderman and mayor) who are holding their RIGHTS (freedom of speech) against them to keep the out of Chicago. How can the Gay ppl who fight for “equal” rights try to keep out a business (or anyone) just for speaking against their gay wishes? It’s illegal to discriminate on someone for their opinions…So Olin you may want to tone down on the black vs white this has NOTHING to do with that.
@ dee jay: Okay, the bible has scripture against other sins too. So I know a bunch of adulters, thieves, fornicators, etc. Should the church rally against them also. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone – or in this case, buy the first chicken sandwich.
Black churches has the right to get involved with what they want these gay want to ride the coat of the civil rights movement but rarely do you see them getting involved in a hate crime directed at people of color so don’t tell my people what they can do thank you very much
thank you!!
Thank You! We have the rights to accept whatever we want and don’t answer to no one
The statment made in that photo is: Nothing and nobody can come between us and chicken.
Civil rights is not about black people only. It is about ensuring every citizen has the right to self-determination: The right to decide their life direction while receiving equal rights under the law. You do not have an understanding of civil rights. The Bill of Rights, the first 10 Amendments of the U.S. Constitution is what every outcast, oppressed group has fought for–to receive protections and guarantees afforded by the Constitution. It is sad that so many ignorant black people deny the similarity of the black and gay struggle for equality and inclusion. This is not a religious issue but a civil rights issue. Nothing more.
Somebody like you wouldn’t want a black person to live in his neighborhood. Nor would you hire them to work for you if you had a business. You are simple. The constitution is a piece of paper whose original intent was to keep black Americans in slavery, while allowing whites to live like kings and queens. It had to be re-defined at different points in history to offset some of the social imbalances between Whites and African American. If this is not true, why does it contain so many amendments? In addition, white gay people are among the most bigoted people that I, as an African American, have ever dealt with. I’d rather deal with a heterosexual white person. Let’s get our facts right.
The Constitution is a living document that is flexible yet stable. Black people have not always received its protections and guarantees, as is evident with slavery, segregation and other forms of discrimination that we experience ,today. It is still an important document and was necessary in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1968. As I said previously, the civil rights movement was not solely about black people. In fact, white and Latino people marched with Dr. King in a show of solidarity for equal rights for ALL outcast and oppressed people. Dr. King said, “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” Baring gays from full inclusion is an injustice that king would have been opposed to. Again, this is an issue of civil rights, not religion.
I bet those Blacks you see in that photo were paid by the Koch’s Bros to show their black asses……….This was staged…..All of them are “b” grades actress and actors….If you really want to shape a man or woman behavior just flash some money in their faces…………….The love of money is the root of all evil…..Majority of people who end up in hell will be because of money and sex………
I agree Black people who allow others to go unchecked about comparing being gay to being black are fools! The state of being a Christian is not based on color but on religious beliefs. If you allow this kind of thinking to creep into the church then expect these same people to try to impose their beliefs on you. Look to God and not to the state of a person. I’m a Christian and that will not change because someone want to wield their political power. If I want to get to Hell, I can get there by myself. So I will look to God instead of man.
THATS THE BEST WAY TO THINK….SALUTE!
The way to think about a gay right is the Constitutional rights, guarantees and protections: The same thing Dr. King fought for black people and women (black and white).
@samsar13-Just where is Hell??…..Hell is in your mind!! Life is in front of you but your eyes are closed. More wars and social strife have been because of “religion”…….religion is PERSONAL, NOT NATIONAL. Too bad so many so-called CHRISTIANS don’t know HOW to apply scripture!!
Hell- Germany had millions of Christians when Adolf Hitler rose to power, and guess what — they fell for the madness. You are NOT a Christian!! If you were, you’d accept the fact that the BLACK CHURCH HAS ITS FAIR SHARE OF GAY MEMBERS!!!
Anyone who believes churches shouldn’t take a stance in SUPPORT of the biblical definition of marriage, between a man and woman, is plain old stupid! This issue has nothing to do with race!!! If gays can speak in favor of their beliefs, then so can others. In sick of the gay community BULLYING the world when someone doesn’t agree with them.
THANK YOU!!! FINALLY SOME REAL COMMENTS…….
You are so right !!! All this hate and bulling against the heterosexuals is a HATE CRIME. We can take a stand too for what we know are facts about same sex marriage and we will not be forced to do what they want. In my very strong opinion marriage is between a man and a woman and our children and grandchildren will stay strong for all our future generations to come against same sex marriage.We will not accept what we know is EVIL. Just stop it with all this pro gay marriage BULLING AND HATE ON HETEROSEXUALS. NO MORE” HETEROPHOBIA” !!!! If you don’t like Chick-Fil-A then don’t patronize them because just like OBAMA had his opinion on same sex marriage, we can have our opinion as well. GOD BLESS ALL EVEN THE GAYS !!
Common sense does not always make good sense. In other words, religion does not trump the Constitution. Gay marriage equality is about ensuring ALL American citizens are protected under the law and have protections against bigots who would deny them employment, insurance and more than a 1,000 benefits. It is not a religious issue.
Thank you!!!
Maybe the white church should take a stronger stance on the scripture that tells slaves to be obedient to your masters. That’s biblical and it’s support is reflected in the Constitution, as well as the institution of slavery. It was taught in White churches until when? Do you support it? Of course you don’t. Be careful how you interpret the Bible. Homegirl, let’s not pick and choose what best fits our circumstance or situation. There too much of that.
How do ANY of you know what these black churches are doing? The man is NOT a bigot….smh at that statement. Do people have to be ok with gay marriage in 2012 and IF we are not then we are called bigot’s? I dont support the Gays partially for that reason. Their stance is retarded at the least, they want equal rights (which they have since its no law against being gay). Then they try to bring in blacks by saying disagreeing with gays is like being a racist who hated blacks., NO way can you turn this gay fight in to a civil rights movement, gays HAVE rights. Their fight is nothing like the 400+ year fight of our ancestor’s, I wish a white person would try to say that shit……The image of gays has made a 360 turn now its frowned on to have your own feelings of gays….they want…no the EXPECT EVERYONE to accept that. NO BUENO!!!
I agree with your statement that the gay movement is not equivalent to civil rights. Regardless of that, everybody has the right to choose his/her mate. Did anybody tell you who to marry?
the owner of the company merely stated what he believed to be fundamental marriage, if you ask a Muslim from the middle east they would give you a different answer, but it would be their fundamental belief,
They are all hypocrites because they know damn well there are plenty of gays in their church, but as long as they keep quiet and pay their tithes then it’s all good.
It’s concerning when religion suggests to African-Americans that opposing gay marriage is merely preserving the sanctity of marriage, when bigots in the 60′s claimed that preserving the sanctity of marriage is precisely why they opposed inter-racial marriage.
It’s ironic that the civil rights issue is not understood because of the interference of religion in the issue. I think it is sad that some of these black churches fail to note the similarities the community shares with the gay rights movement and the solidarity it should have with oppressed people.
All religion is wicked. When you lose love what else is there? And this is not love.
Like the garbage rap music (because I can’t credit it as hip hop) has a bunch of LOST followers. The black church with it’s false teaching is going down the same drain. Research your facts about this restaurant and it’s past before jumpIng on the bandwagon. But no what pastor’s says is true just like the idiots going to vote for that clown named Mitt. The church needs to do more in the community with kids and education then worry what’s going on on people’s bedrooms. SAD DAYS!
To see the religiosity of these posts in terms of “sentiments against gay people does not equate to racism directed at black people.” I am at a loss.
The issue is not whether, you posters, as individuals like homosexuality or not. No one is asking for you to like homosexuality. Gay rights is about acquiring the same tax privileges and legal recognition that all married couples enjoy for gay people and couples.
Oppression is oppression. Whether it is islamophobia, homophobia, racism, or sexism. It is the discrimination and maltreatment of people based on qualities they did not choose, and should not make a difference in recognizing their right to access society’s resources to the same degree as the majority.
Again, if people posting here cannot recognize that defending a public bigot because he cites the bible, I suggest you follow all the other injunctions in the bible such as no mixing fibers (I hope to god none of you own jeans), and not working on the Sabboth (Saturday). Don’t forget to break the neck of an ox at the scene of an unsolved crime (who needs detectives?).
@David @5th Bkr- thanks for making sense. It’s hard for some people to do that.
Black churches, mainly those brainwashed baptist-folk, will always be set in their ways and will always have that old-time, slavery, 1940′s, 50′s and 60′s mentality, that God only want to see a man and a woman in holy matrimony. Who the hell are they to tell the next person who they can love, and who the hell are they to engage into the next person’s home, in their bedroom and tell them who to sleep with? The way they think will never ever change due to being to in-tuned to what’s right related to the bible. They also will always be brainwashed by the leading sinner that heads their church on every Sunday, but commits so many adulterated sins the remaining six days (do I need to name names of a few pastors/bishops? I think you know who!), and that is their pastor/preacher. Baptist religion is the worse religion on the face of the earth, and from looking at this photo in this article, these black folks look like southern baptist people who are TRULY the worse kind and are so judgmental when it comes to defining the next person’s life, when in fact, their life is all in shambles and disarray. This is the ultimate, primary reason why I ceased going to my parents’ church, a baptist church, a church that I grew up in and was baptized in at the age of 11, now that I’m 39; I stopped going to my church well over 8 years ago now and counting due to that reason, not to mention, my former-pastor, who is still the pastor to this day, was involved in a scandal of his own pertaining to his adultery chaos he commited with having a mistress on the side, going to the same church he preaches in which is my former church, and sitting in the same pews his wife sits in. So yeah, your preacher who heads and leads your church on a Sunday isn’t a saint, and I’m almost certain that some of you commentators have similar stories that you may not admit to it. Organized religion, when it comes to ones own belief, disallows most people make decisions for themselves because organized religion is supposedly be the way to go, in relation to the bible. Speaking of the bible, per some of these so-called “christians” admissions from taking an excerpt from the bible, you can’t eat certain types of food such as shell-fish, etc. I find that a bunch of blahzay-blah because people go to restaurants and eat that particular kind of food anyway; I sure as hell do. Case in point, no one, not even scriptures from the bible, is going to dictate my life and tell me how to live it.
amen, sullyharth. well said!
@Sullyharth agree 100%
@sullyharth you are right. No one has the right to tell you how to live your life. We have all been given FREE will. What are do with your will is your choice. You can TRY to live the will of Him (YHWH) or you can do your own thing. The Truth will be revealed in the end. God will not be mocked!
I hope these people know that the President donate money to Gay hate Groups, all you have to do is read about it.
Hate Groups don’t just hate Gays they also hate Blacks. I hope the black churches can still eat their Chick-Fil-A Sandwich knowing that they have just donated money to Hate group who are ready to kill them also.
this is so silly why don’t you rally about the black on blacks killing. do you know how foolish you all look all of you’re some brainwash fools. the bible say don’t eat pork you love your RIBS and bacon did you read that WAKE UP DAMN
Amen…..
@Jackie, Why don’t you tell us about White on White crime? White men are killing their wives, because it is cheaper then divoice and mass killing of mostly White folks, just for the hell of it!
The Covenant between the nation of Israel and God was and is a Marriage Contract. One of the conditions of the contract was that Israel would obey all of the laws and ordinances in the contract. One of the ordinances stated that a man lying with a man and a woman lying with a woman were not to be done and to do so is an abomination. Who said that? God said that. By what right did he say that? By the right and power of being the Creator of mankind. Israel was to be an example of how a nation and people should behave and govern themselves for better or worse. In blessing and in corrective punishment. The covenant is an continual covenant throughout all your generations. God has stated…”I change not.” The purpose of the covenant …”I desire of you righteous seed,” or people who think and behave like God does. The promise of the covenant is to make humanity immortal and be their God forever and they will be gods and take part in the family business which is creating on a level way and far above what we do now. But be warned rebels will not be there not by force of political will or by the manipulation of the A.C.L.U. There is way more at stake here than securing the right to behave as you will or as you feel justified to. The promises are far and above the wildest imagination of men and women and leaves no room for the deviant and malignant machinations of human reasoning or political correctness. To twist the terms of the covenant is to oppose yourself in judgement. There are consequences now and then. God’s purpose is never overthrown.
WOW YOU ARE RIGHT AND THE TRUTH WILL NEVER CHANGE. GOD BLESS !!!
WOW YOU ARE RIGHT.
Remember …The seventh day Sabbath is not Sunday. Sunday is the first day of the week and the week was created by God. Anyone who tells you differently is deceiving you. Who are you going to believe and obey, God or man?
I believe that a marriage can only occur with a man a woman. The four components of marriage throughout time all over the globe have been to strengthen love, build a future together, grow companionship and insure the continuance of the human species by procreation – or, making babies. Being able to perform 3 of those 4 can never be a marriage. I am not a Christian. I think organized religion has outlived it’s usefulness and pits people at odds with each other more than it unites us. Simply put, a chair and a table look the same in important ways until one tries to serve Thanksgiving dinner on a chair. Take the wheels off a car, and it can no longer do what a car does. We may want to call a chair a table; or, a wheel less Ford a car, but form does fit function and things aren’t whatever we say they are. Most blacks abhor the discrimination homosexuals in committed relationships endure. But marriage equality is increasingly coming to be seen as gays denigrating important values held by Christians and other faith communities of which most black reside philosophically.
The black church has become a joke. They follow the slave master’s version better thanthe slave master himself. Folks – we are going backwards – we killing each other – we behind economically – we behind in technology – ourcwealthy black folks don’t build foundations in the communities – ifcthe tea party come to power – its over and back to Jim Crow – doubt if you will.
How in the world can these churches say anything against gay’s when some of their ministers are on the “DL” and some are openly gay….How can they back Chik fila, when the majority of them have a gay minister of music, whom they praise every Sunday and at choir rehersals…Come out of being “Handkerchief Head Negroes” and grow a backbone…..The black church has become a sad state……
I’m no fan of gay marriage but it has zero effect on my life. Black on black crime, murder, out of wedlock babies, high black incarceration rates is what has an effect on many black peoples lives. Now that’s something to rally against. The alternative lifestyle of gay marriage has nothing to do with these pressing issues and has no negative impact on black communities.
This is ignorant beyond belief. I feel really sad today for us. We seem to never learn!
Well, the bottom line is that same-sex marriage will eventually prevail. Church folks y’all need to be worrying about so many other issues that affect our communities, instead of who someone marries. That’s a little stupid, dont you think? Use that same energy to become more proactive in reducing poverty, eliminating black-on black crime, and police brutality. Gay marriage doesn’t kill. It’s ignorance, poverty, guns, and drugs that are killing our people. If you stop gay marriage from being legalized, will that pay your rent/mortgage, your grocery bill or for your child’s education? Aren’t these issues more important than worrying about gay marriage. Many of you claim this will destroy the black community, while a lot of you fat ass old black women are sitting up some church divorced. Did that straight marriage help you to keep your man? The same issue with you homophobic niggaz (preacher, deacon, etc) who are divorced or unhappy in your marriage, cheating on your wives whenever you have chance if anybody will look at you. Don’t allow yourselves to be sidetracked by an issue that is none of your business. If your son or daughter, or maybe you is gay, then they will be so. Who carries who the marry as long as they are happy. Y’all need to get it together and stop always worrying about heaven, when a lot of you are on your way to HELL in the church. LOL
It’s not a question of what marriage model will prevail it’s all about individual choices. Both sides of this argument will eventually have to realize that. Also, just because someone is for same sex marriage they should not flaunt it anymore than straights should. I take all my clothes to a Black dry cleaner & his wife & I don’t ask them what causes they support with the money I pay them. My wife goes to a Korean dry cleaner, pays her money, & never asks what he does with the money. This whole discussion is BS because we all have options & opinions & should support what we think is right & accept it at face value. Why are people micro-examining every possible argument & motivation? Bottom line, are you for same sex marriage or not? If so, good for you. If not, that’s ok too. It will work out.
Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. When Rahm Emmanuel said the Chick Fil A doesn’t represent Chicago values who was speaking for? He was speaking for a black churches in Chicago that endorsed him and supported him. Really? This black church represents Christian values so anyone who is a Christian should not have a problem with what this church did. The reason why most black people have a problem with what the CEO said is because most black pastors don’t believe in monogamous relationships. It’s either they sleep with choir members, have children with the church prophetess or are on down low. Leave my Chick Fil A CEO and my black church alone. Confessing in marriage between a man and a woman does not equate hatred against GAY people, it just affirms what ones believes. Bushmen in Namibia, Pygmies in Congo and to the Shipibo-Conibo of the Amazon Forest, they don’t believe in Christianity or the 1st amandment but have always defended the sanctity of marriage between a man and woman. The issue is not about what he said rather the issue is that most people have been hurt and are always looking for an opportunity to express hatred in the name of GAY rights.
i’m embarrassed to see my people so brainwash you need to take that bag and put it over your heads you zealous fools you rallying around this president store then you ask what is president obama going do for you. all you did today is make this man more money if he was black you wouldn’t have showed up you should be ashamed
Tell the truth and shame the devil…Jackie!!
Who is God? Where is God? Just what is “God”?? Why is “talk” about God and pre-modern “scriptures” — and the misquoting of scripture in relation to the time periods they were written- even in the mix when it concerns civil liberties and justice among men IN THE 21ST century??
Jesus said, render unto Cesar what is Cesar’s, and the same with God. Democracies ARE NOT RELIGIOUS GOVERNMENTS!! The Bill of Rights is the foundation of our constitution and democracy — NOT THE BIBLE!! Majority rule (based on Common Sense) with minority protections is the hallmark that keeps us from anarchy. Not a whole lot of common sense being used by some of our bloggers on this subject.
Human beings are the highest order of animal species on the planet by virture of our brain capacities (some of you need to learn how to use that capacity!). Homosexuality is a common occurrence in the human species (for whatever reason) — AND NOT A THREAT TO THE HETEROSEXUAL POPULATION. For the “church” to get “involved” in a “civil liberty” issue such as “gay marriage” is “questionable”. Too much is happening in the black community – locally and nationally- to even put gay marriage on the radar scope for so-called “church people”! To be in fear of less than 3-5% of the population IS INSANE!!
Black people in this country have MUCH LARGER ISSUES — and gay marriage ISN’T ONE OF THEM!!
Major civil rights legislation is coming up for review, and radical conservatives (Tea Party) in Congress will push for their abolishment, especially among Southern republican politicians. Some of you need to pull your heads out of your 4th point of contact and FIND OUT WHERE THE REAL THREATS ARE COMING FROM!!
Nuff said!
An example of Blacks not knowing where their best interests lie. When they are racially-abused, they can expect little help from Gays and Lesbians now.
I believe the GBLT community understand that many blacks are not as ignorant as this article may lead some to believe. Just like poor whites are manipulated by conservatives, poor blacks can be manipulated by evil and hate! Just look at the uproar over the health care law……select interest groups are against it and pushing the envelope in an effort to maximize profits and not the best interests of the country. This is why conservatives want to destroy education in this country…..people who are uneducated can’t make SOUND DECISIONS…..black, white yellow, brown, and purple!
Where was the “black church” when Eddie Long was molesting boys? Why don’t they rally against those pastors that are committing adultery and are on the “down-low”? The owner of Chick Fil A doesn’t give a darn about the black church or black folks…they need to research the owner’s history before jumpping on this “media” bandwagon!
A-M-E-N!! Praise the Lord!!!!!!!
Really? Chick Fil a started in 1946, this was a time period they wouldn’t even allow blacks to eat at their restaurants or even piss in their toilets for that matter. It wasn’t until The Civil Rights bill of 1964 that discrimination was “abolished”. The sad part of this equation is seeing blacks that have fought for civil rights, now turn around a discriminate against other minorities. Keep in mind the KKK thought they were doing Gods work as well by lynching NEGROS back in the day. This buffoonery has no place in Gods house. The bible says the devil comes in all shapes; I never thought I would see the day where he turned himself into a deep fried chicken sandwich….
the right to agree or disagree is our AMERICAN RIGHTS & what this wonderful country (.. will all its ills ) still stand for..healthy dialogue for or against gay rights to marry is PERSONAL ( if it was on a ballot of the citizens to vote on.. I would vote >. NO !!..& that’s my right / priveledge as an AMERICAM CITIZEN.. I am not anti-gay (.. in fact I help out with any human rights causes that discrimates base on gender..& our group fight for the GLBT black community rights to exist !!..www.RAINBOWLADIESOURSPACEINC.ORG..we are over 300 strong-confident black womens from all levels of life..love my GLBT community.. civil union agreement =yes….gay marriage = NO !!
Marva,
Why do you care about who marries who unless it’s not taking anything away from you? Not to be offensive, but would you want your parents telling you who to marry? If not, why are you and others trying to play the maternal/paternal role when it comes to deciding who marries who. Some of you same people support abortion, but that’s ok. I know a lot of Black women are angry because they are having a hard time keeping and finding a man. A lot of times, it’s their own faults.
Simply put, Chik-fil-A is entitled to take whatever stance they choose. It’s a private company. Personally, I have chosen not to spend my money there any longer, not to compare one struggle against another, but because I feel discrimination is wrong in any form. I am a Black heterosexual male and I am not an overt or outright advocate of gay marriage but I don’t believe in preventing it either. I believe in treating others as you would like to be treated. At various points, people used the same Bible and/or profesed Christian faith to defend/support slavery, to slaughter people of other religions, to outlaw mixed-race marriage and any number of other forms of erroneous dogmatic rationalizations.
Would someone please explain to me what does men having sex with men, and women having some form of sex with other women have to do black people. Most homosexuals in this country are white men. White men used to lynch blacks. Now the effiminate/gay one’s want to compare themselves to our plight! I just don’t get it.
THE BLACK FOLK DEFINITION OF CIVIL RIGHT IS: It’s not a civil rights violation unless a white person does something bad to a black person. Blacks seem to be blind to the fact that Civil Rights are for everyone, not for just when a black person gets killed or looked over for a job by the white man. I don’t care people want to spin it these negros look like fools.
This should be an article on ‘World wide Churchs support Chic fil A! Period
Black folks propensity to being religious keeps us backwards economically, educationally hindering us to really prosper in the new global economy, which now belongs o China and Asia. Statistics how the more religious a people and/or society – the poorer they are. Those posts mentioning the constitution – Remember! black people were considered 3/5 of a man.
as a person of whose mother is a native american, and whose father is black., let me say by all means those house niggaz in that picture are sickening… talk about your amos and andy, stepinfetchit, modern day coonery… those people are there because they have been conned into loving a non existent skygod… man made religion poisons the spirit beyond belief… those same people would be up in arms if the ceo of chick fil a was spending 7 million dollars on an anti-black hate campaign… but no he is hating against gays, something their moronic pastor told them was okay to do… it isnt enough for black people to no longer have the chains of slavery, now they have enslaved themselves with christianity… i mean its hilarious…
if you asked most of them what was in the bible they couldnt tell you… man made religion is a lottery for your spirit… people use man made religion because their souls are empty and they need to be lead by some shyster who needs you to pay his house and car note… if people knew what was in the bible they wouldnt play a part in these massive roles of illiteracy… think about it, their god is so stupid that it doesnt even know the earth it created is round… if you dont believe me feel free to read revelations 7.1 where it says it saw angels standing at the four corners of the earth… really, how does a round earth have four corners??? well lets see, it doesnt… so conger up as much religionista mumbo jumbo as you like and the earth still wont be square… now lets think about why in the bible in its most important part it says the earth is square… gee, that would be because in the year 200 everybody thought the earth was flat… make sense??? am i making since to you bible toters yet???
if that isnt good enough lets look at a god who is so childish it kills everyone on the earth except for noah and his family… i wont even get into the ridiculous nature of we are all descendants of noah, lets talk about having his family build a boat a hundred times the size of the titanic to put every animal of the earth on there… hey, what about the dinosaurs… oh wait we cant have dinosaurs because the triassic and jurrasic era was over a 150 million years ago… the bible at max determines the earth to be no older than 7 thousand years old… wow, that doesnt make any sense right… of course it doesnt… carbon dating > bible… now lets get back to your gods hissy fit where he killed everyone on the planet… understand this analogy PLEASE!!! loving a god who KILLED everyone on the planet is like loving a mass murderer who killed everyone in your family except for one cousin, and because the mass murderer allowed your cousin to live it is a gracious, loving, and caring person…
black people, do you understand that jews, whites, and gays were in the struggle with us helping us gain our freedom??? to turn your back on the gay community for an invisble sky god that exists only to allow some man to pay his house and car note off of you is ridiculous… and black community, stop hating gays period… stop making it hard for people to live their lives… who a person chooses to love is none of your damn business… if your jesus ever existed (and he didnt) from what it says in the bible love is preached… you morons who hate gay people are sick… you dont even see the madness you are perpetrating??? i get it though, you wanna be up in the big house with massa, you want to forget that massa had labeled you as 3/5 of a human being… its all good now right, hate on gays if you want… its fucking idiotic…
bozak
WOW! YOU NEED HELP! I HOPE YOU PICK UP A BIBLE AND FIND PEACE!
pffffffffffffffffttt… you really told me…
Are you sure you understand the bible you read……then compare that to the history and development of the human race!
I asked a white co-worker few years ago – would he be a christian if Jesus was in the Image of a black man – he said —No!
FOR THOSE OF YOU CRITICIZING THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHURCHES YOU NEED TO READ A HISTORY BOOK. THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHURCH WAS THE BACKBONE OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT AND WHERE DR. KING DEVELOPED HIS FIGHTING SPIRIT.
THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY IS IN TROUBLE TODAY BECAUSE WE ABANDONED GOD AND CHURCH WHICH HAS DESTROYED THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN FAMILY. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR HATE SPEECH AGAINST THE CHURCH.
THE gays APPEAR TO BE THE HATE GROUP. MR.CATHY SAID HE SUPPORTED TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE, HE NEVER SPOKE HATE AGAINST ANY PERSON OR GROUP. HMMMMMMMMM!
Lets see if you negroes go out and buy cornflakes to support Gabby like you did with Chick Fil A!!
I am sure African-Americans will support Gabby. It is obvious you do not support her, yourself or your race by using derogatory terms i.e. negroes.
Those Churches Did The Right Thing Because This Gay Marriage Crap Is Crazy. Father God & Lord Jesus Want Men And Women To Date, Love & Marry One Another. Even Though I Will Continue To Support President Obama & Maryland’s Governor O’Malley I Would Have Never Thought They Would Support No Mess Like That.
David, unfortunately the President was bullied into this decision. Also, I really believe he strives to treat all citizens equally. Thank you for cutting him some “slack”.
Some Christians are brain dead–period. If this where an issue about improving black communities, many black churches would speak up or get in involved. Talk about priorities out of order.
THE PRESIDENT CANNOT IMPROVE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITIES, THAT HAS TO START WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL PERSON WANTING TO BE BETTER. WE ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN MAKE OUR KIDS STAY IN SCHOOL, TEACH THEM MORALITY, MONITOR THEIR BEHAVIOR, TEACH THEM THEIR HISTORY ETC.
IT IS TIME FOR US TO STOP PLAYING THE BLAME GAME AND GET UP OFF OUR LAZY ASSES AND ACT.
START WITH TEACHING YOUR CHILDREN THAT THEY ARE AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND NOT “BLACK” A COLOR. IN AMERICA EVERYTHING IS REDUCED TO BLACK AND WHITE AND WHITE IS ALWAYS MORE THAN AND “BLACK” IS LESS THAN. TEACH YOUR CHILDREN WHO THEY ARE, WHERE THEY COME FROM AND THEIR HISTORY. THEIR HISTORY BEGAN BEFORE SLAVERY.
WE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN AMERICA AND ACCEPT BEING REDUCED TO A COLOR AND WE EMBRACE IT.
ASIANS WERE ONCE CALLED “YELLOW”, AND NATIVE AMERICANS WERE CALLED “RED”, I COULD GO ON AND ON. NOW THESE PEOPLE HAVE MADE THE US RECOGNIZE THEIR HERITAGE AND WE ACT LIKE WE DON’T CARE…I THINK AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE DRANK TO MUCH “KOOK” AID. YOU DON’T KNOW WHO YOU ARE, OR WHERE YOU ARE GOING, YOU JUST BITCH AND MOAN AND TALK AND TALK AND TALK.
Here we go again with individualism. I truly believe this notion of do it yourself is why black people cannot come together to affect change. Although indivisualism is important, it is not what affects change on a macro scale. That requires policy reform and iniatives. That is where the President has been mostly silent on the issues of the the new Jim Crow (i.e., prison industrial complex), poverty and the black community. Name a time, since becoming president, when he gave a detailed speech about the black community (without scolding blacks) and made proposals to address some of the generational policy issues that other presidents have ignored? Entire black commuities have been left behind because of policies that neglect, abandon and oppress the black community. For example, a new report states that inner city residents are more likely to be unemployed because jobs have moved to the suburbs. It also finds that for the most determined job seekers, the prospects are slim if they lack transportation because the employers are so far away. Now, policy is responsible for relocating jobs out of the reach of black and brown people. Indivisualism will not affect the change that is necessary to bring jobs back or closer to the inner city. Do it is yourself is a republican talking point and strategy to leave more poor people behind. Wake up! and stop being an Obama apologist. To be fair, Obama has some great complishments in specific areas, but he has rarely weighed in on issues that primarily affect black people. That is a fact.
Wow, some of you undercover gays on this site are really trying hard to convince us that your issues are the same as African Americans plight for over 400 yearsin this hell hole and continues today. I have never seen a gay group come out and rally for causes today that effect my people on a daily basis. This reminds of the same bullying the so called jews did to everyone in the past 30 years, now we have a new bully on the block.
Please study the issue of civil rights: It is based on the Constitution, the Bill of Rights. Yes, the Constitution is an imperfect document, but it is flexible, yet stable. Slavery and all of the other injustices are sad reminders of its flaws. But the same Constitution is why disabled Americans have rights and protections, why interracial marriage is no longer a crime, why all women have a right to career opportunities that extend beyond teacher, nurse or domestic (and that includes white women), and it is why blacks have more rights and protections today than we did in the late 50s and early 60s. The point is that civils rights is about receiving the same rights and protections that other Americans receive. It is not a black thing or reserved for black people, only. White and brown and gay people marched with Dr. King because they all wanted to be treated equally under the law. That is what civil rights is about: Receiving guarantees, rights and protections under the law (e.g., married people receive more than 1000 benefits that none married do not receive). It is not about whether the church agrees or disagrees with gays. Do not read the Bible only. Read other texts and understand what you are talking about.
Why is this even a conversation when this isn’t the ONLY company supporting hate groups? I wish the churches didn’t get involved to begin with but they have. It’s sad. It’s sad because they are rallying around trying to drum up support to NOT vote for President Obama again because he supports gay marriage. Unfortunately they do not see that the ONE issue they do not agree on is simply so small compared to all the others that truly matter. I wish they could wake up and take a whif of reality. Having gay people in church hasn’t made them turn them away so why is this chicken franchise given so much power now and churches are joining in on the fight? Surely there are more important things to focus on like equal pay for women, like health care for all, making College affordable for us and our children as a whole, keeping those children with health benefits unti 25. Come on now, focus on what’s really important here.
Thanks for your post but I think you should read the Affordable Health Care Act as it covers health care for all and children can say on their parents insurance until age 25-26 plus it covers birth control for women, mammograms, your paps etc. Also, President Obama signed within the last few weeks a law which will help college students especially African-Americans.
The Chick-Fil-A fiasco is not so much about gay people it is about “OUR” rights to support or not support another persons sexual preference. Gay people want to say you hate them is you don’t approve of agree with their sexual acts but that is not true of most people. It is our right to believe in the Bible, and to not support this lifestyle.
It has become the thing in this country to compare gay rights to the struggle of African-Americans and this is just wrong. These people were correct to stand up for what they believe in just as it is the right of every citizen. While I do not hate or dislike gay people, I resent the fact that I am perceived as a person of hate if I say I disagree with their lifestyle.
I know caucasian people who don’t agree with racial mixing but they are always polite to me. I accept their belief. I don’t have to be in their family, just treat me FAIR.
there’s something about these black christians that just looks insane. empty vessels.
There is something about these African-Americans who don’t believe in GOD they look insane. Empty vessels, lost SOULS! But we Christians will love and pray for them.
For someone who has never travelled abroad or experienced another culture – or older religions that christianity grew out of, nor appears to have any inclination as to the impact of archeology or evolutionary science, your statement lacks SUBSTANCE.
Motown Sound, you are so correct. African-Americans have lost their curiosity for education, knowledge, GOD, family and the world. They are not interested in life and what it has to offer. If only we could get those things back again. We need to start with God and family and all things will fall in place…but when you don’t want to know God, and turn your back on the family unit you remain lost, you can’t find your way so you just move along, coast along in the natural.
The issue is not one of “knowing God”….NONE OF US KNOW GOD! This is not even a RELIGIOUS ISSUE. This issue is a constitutional issue wrapped within our Bill of Rights as individuals who seek to live out our lives in a peaceful manner with rights and priviledges afforded as human beings, and not infringed upon by our gov’t or our neighbor. Marriages are APPROVED BY THE STATE IN THIS COUNTRY, NOT THE CHURCH. CHURCHES DON’T APPROVE LAWS, THE CONGRESS DOES. Majority rule is the hall mark of true democracies. Religion is personal – which was the whole point of the GOSPEL. There is only one judge, and he/it/them are not HUMAN. It is people like you who grab on to scripture which many DON’T UNDERSTAND nor can place within the appropriate context. If the US Consitution was amended 21 times to correct problems/issues (a manmade document), then what do you think about the bible (another manmade document) and it’s questionable double standards, especially within the Old Testiment. The Apostle Paul has had a tremendous impact on Christianity with his writings (remember he was a Pharisee before a Christian and his conservative stance on life without the knowledge of science or understanding of true human nature has been disappointing in terms of reading his biblical letters), and it is unfortunate he has had in general a negative effect today because many like yourself don’t understand the cultural and religious conditions within the context of those scriptures. Today, we have laws that rule the order of society to keep human beings in order to protect us all from the misdeeds of others (which is why the bible was written!! – a code of order because there were no administrative orders governing men and society in general across what was then national boundaries and city states). Take the blinders off and open your mind to rational thought and common sense! One has to apply scripture in the context of what we know AS FACT TODAY….not HATE!
SOME OF YOU NEED TO GET A SOAP BOX AND STAND IN THE TOWN SQUARE. ENOUGH ALREADY! PEOPLE WENT TO CHICK-FIL-A, STOOD IN A LINE, BOUGHT CHICKEN, IT WAS THEIR CHOICE.
NO BODY HATING, IT’S A CHICKEN SANDWICH…LOL!
good luck with your imaginary friend, black xtians.
I wondered what would happen to African-Americans when they turned from GOD and your post answered my question.